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{{short description|2008 song by Kanye West}}
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{{Infobox song
| name = Say You Will
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*Avex Recording ([[Honolulu|Honolulu, Hawaii]])
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*[[Hip hop music|Hip hop]]
*[[Contemporary R&B|R&B]]
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"'''Say You Will'''" is a song by American
Lyrically, the song sees West discuss struggling to detach himself from Alexis
==Background and recording==
[[File:Esthero.jpg|thumb|150px|left|alt=[[Esthero]] attending Claudia Jordans 35th Birthday Party at Boulevard 3, Hollywood, CA 04-13-08|[[Esthero]] persuaded West to keep the beginning of the song's [[Refrain|chorus]], regardless of how many lyrics he re-recorded.<ref name="Holmes"/>]]
Outside of
Throughout the album, West uses [[Auto-Tune]] on his voice.<ref name="McGuire">{{cite web |last1=McGuire |first1=Colin |url=https://www.popmatters.com/142195-kanye-west-2496011497.html |title=Hip-Hop's Heartbreak: Kanye West - 'Say You Will' |website=[[PopMatters]] |access-date=October 27, 2018 |date=May 31, 2011 |archive-date=October 27, 2018 |archive-url=https://web.archive.org/web/20181027144721/https://www.popmatters.com/142195-kanye-west-2496011497.html |url-status=live }}</ref> During the three week period that he worked on the entirety of ''808s & Heartbreak'' in 2008, "Say You Will" was recorded in 15 minutes.<ref name="TheFader">{{cite web|last=Macia |first=Peter |title=''Fader'' 58: Kanye West Cover Story and Interview |website=[[The Fader]] |url=http://www.thefader.com/features/2008/11/25/fader-58-kanye-west-cover-story-and-interview |date=November 25, 2008 |access-date=April 14, 2021 |archive-url=https://web.archive.org/web/20081202233800/http://www.thefader.com/features/2008/11/25/fader-58-kanye-west-cover-story-and-interview |archive-date=December 2, 2008 |url-status=dead }}</ref><ref name="Saponara">{{cite
==Composition and lyrics==
{{multiple image
Musically, "Say You Will" is a [[Melancholia|melancholy]] [[Sentimental ballad|ballad]],<ref name="vibe"/><ref name="spin"/><ref name="guardian"/> featuring [[synth-pop]] production.<ref name="omh"/> Contrasting with most rap and [[Pop music|pop]] songs, the chorus-verse-chorus-verse [[Song structure|structure]] is not used.<ref name="Odyssey">{{cite web|author=Jackson, Rachel|title=Why Say You Will is Kanye's Most Influential Song|url=https://www.theodysseyonline.com/why-say-you-will-is-kanyes-most-influential-song|publisher=[[Odyssey|The Odyssey Online]]|location=Baton Rouge, LA|date=September 12, 2016|access-date=April 19, 2021|archive-date=April 12, 2019|archive-url=https://web.archive.org/web/20190412190756/https://www.theodysseyonline.com/why-say-you-will-is-kanyes-most-influential-song|url-status=live}}</ref> Two icy synth notes are repeated back and forth on the song, which it primarily relies on.<ref name="Saponara"/><ref name="ripcord"/><ref name="Heaton"/> The notes are backed by drums, as well as vocals from monk choir the Kadockadee Kwire featuring Glenn Jordan, [[Phillip Ingram]], [[Jim Gilstrap]], [[Romeo Johnson]], Kevin Dorsey, and [[Will Wheaton]].<ref name="linernotes"/><ref name="Saponara"/><ref name="ripcord"/> The song also prominently features [[Electronic music|electronic]] buzzsaw synths,<ref name="Saponara"/><ref name="Kilhoffer"/> sparse [[Percussion instrument|percussion]], and piano.<ref name="omh"/><ref name="Heaton"/> Strings, violin, [[viola]], [[cello]], and heavy [[Double bass|bass]] are included on the song.<ref name="linernotes"/><ref name="Odyssey"/> West starts to sing at six seconds in, following a few of the notes.<ref name="McGuire"/> He utilizes auto-tune on his voice, singing until the song's 3 minutes and 15 seconds mark.<ref name="McGuire"/><ref name="wp"/> West's performance is succeeded by an extended instrumental outro,<ref name="Saponara"/><ref name="ripcord"/><ref name="Heaton"/> which utilizies the Roland TR-808 and echoes choral vocals for around three minutes.<ref name="McGuire"/><ref name="Kilhoffer"/><ref name="pf"/> Background vocals are contributed to the song by Mr Hudson and [[The World Famous Tony Williams|Tony Williams]].<ref name="linernotes"/>▼
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| footer = [[The Cure]] (left) and [[New Order (band)|New Order]] (right) influenced the song's [[Gothic rock|gothic]] and [[Electronic music|dank electronic]] elements, which are combined with its lead genres of [[Hip hop music|hip hop]] and [[Contemporary R&B|R&B]].<ref name="book"/>
| image1 = The Cure Live in Singapore 2-_1st_August 2007.jpg
| alt1 = [[The Cure]] pictured in 2007
| image2 = New Order, Chile 2019 (39751785423).jpg
| alt2 = [[New Order (band)|New Order]] pictured in, Chile 2019
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▲Musically, "Say You Will" is a [[Melancholia|melancholy]] [[
In the lyrics of the song, West speaks of being unable to pull himself away from his ex-
==Release and reception==
On November 24, 2008, "Say You Will" was included as the first track on West's fourth studio album ''808s & Heartbreak''.<ref>{{cite web |last1=
''[[PopMatters]]'' contributor Dave Heaton stated the song "sets the mood well" for ''808s & Heartbreak'' with its two "simple synth notes" that repeat back and forth similarly to a [[Table tennis|ping-pong]] game, recognizing the "strangeness"
==Live performances==
[[File:Kanye West's 808s & Heartbreak @ The Hollywood Bowl - Night 1 (09-25-15) (21115791583).jpg|thumb|
West performed the song
For a January 2013 concert in Abu Dhabi on [[The Yeezus Tour]], West began to perform "Say You Will", before transitioning into both freestyling and ranting.<ref name="yeezus">{{cite web |last1=Weiss |first1=Sam |url=https://www.complex.com/music/2013/02/video-kanye-west-freestyles-rants-over-say-you-will-in-abu-dhabi |title=Video: Kanye West Freestyles (Rants) Over 'Say You Will' in Abu Dhabi |website=[[Complex (magazine)|Complex]] |access-date=April 14, 2021 |date=February 1, 2013 |archive-date=April 14, 2021 |archive-url=https://web.archive.org/web/20210414143522/https://www.complex.com/music/2013/02/video-kanye-west-freestyles-rants-over-say-you-will-in-abu-dhabi |url-status=live }}</ref> During the concert, West wore a [[straitjacket]].<ref name="yeezus"/> At the 2013 [[Governors Ball Music Festival|Governors Ball]], West performed the song.<ref>{{cite news |last1=Domball |first1=Ryan |url=https://pitchfork.com/news/51097-report-kanye-west-at-governors-ball/ |title=Report: Kanye West at Governors Ball |website=Pitchfork |access-date=April 29, 2021 |date=June 10, 2013 |archive-date=August 15, 2013 |archive-url=https://web.archive.org/web/20130815120951/https://pitchfork.com/news/51097-report-kanye-west-at-governors-ball/ |url-status=live }}</ref> For West's two night concert of ''808s & Heartbreak'' in its entirety at the 2015 [[Hollywood Bowl]] in September, he performed the song as the first track, beginning at 9:19 p.m.<ref name="Steve">{{cite
==In popular culture==
American trio [[Mobius Band (band)|Mobius Band]] released a cover version of the song on their EP ''Empire of Love'' on February 11, 2009, coinciding with [[Valentine's Day]].<ref name="spin">{{cite news |last1=Fitzmaurice |first1=Larry |url=https://www.spin.com/2009/02/free-download-mobius-band-cover-kanye-west/ |title=Free Download: Mobius Band Cover Kanye West |website=[[Spin (magazine)|Spin]] |access-date=September 29, 2018 |date=February 11, 2009 |archive-date=August 15, 2018 |archive-url=https://web.archive.org/web/20180815055014/https://www.spin.com/2009/02/free-download-mobius-band-cover-kanye-west/ |url-status=live }}</ref> The cover maintains the original's melancholic tone, though has the addition of [[Sampling (music)|samples]] of children's voices and features no
On October 17, 2019, West shared a trailer for his [[concert film]] ''[[Jesus Is King (film)|Jesus Is King]]'' that is slightly over a minute in length.<ref name="pf-2"/><ref>{{cite web|author=France, Lisa Respers|title=Kanye West releases 'Jesus is King' film trailer|url=https://edition.cnn.com/2019/10/18/entertainment/kanye-jesus-king-film-trnd/index.html|publisher=[[CNN]]|date=October 18, 2019|access-date=April 19, 2021|archive-date=October 25, 2019|archive-url=https://web.archive.org/web/20191025192831/https://edition.cnn.com/2019/10/18/entertainment/kanye-jesus-king-film-trnd/index.html|url-status=live}}</ref> The trailer is soundtracked by a [[Gospel music|gospel]] reinterpretation of the song with new lyrics, which is delivered by a choir as a temple-like image is displayed.<ref name="pf-2">{{cite news |last1=Yoo |first1=Noah |url=https://pitchfork.com/news/kanye-shares-trailer-for-new-jesus-is-king-imax-movie-watch/ |title=Kanye Shares Trailer for New ''Jesus Is King'' IMAX Movie: Watch |website=Pitchfork |access-date=April 19, 2021 |date=October 17, 2019 |archive-date=January 27, 2021 |archive-url=https://web.archive.org/web/20210127014151/https://pitchfork.com/news/kanye-shares-trailer-for-new-jesus-is-king-imax-movie-watch/ |url-status=live }}</ref><ref name="independent">{{cite web|last=White|first=Adam|date=October 18, 2019|url=https://www.independent.co.uk/arts-entertainment/music/news/kanye-west-jesus-king-cinema-imax-screenings-film-dates-tickets-trailer-a9161226.html|title=''Jesus is King'': First trailer for Kanye West's documentary film released|newspaper=The Independent|access-date=April 19, 2021|archive-date=November 25, 2020|archive-url=https://web.archive.org/web/20201125081212/https://www.independent.co.uk/arts-entertainment/music/news/kanye-west-jesus-king-cinema-imax-screenings-film-dates-tickets-trailer-a9161226.html|url-status=live}}</ref><ref name="refinery">{{cite web|author=Reilly, Kaitlin|title=Kanye West Shares ''Jesus Is King'' Trailer|url=https://www.refinery29.com/en-gb/2019/10/8590591/kanye-west-jesus-is-king-trailer-imax|publisher=[[Refinery29]]|date=October 18, 2019|access-date=April 19, 2021|archive-date=January 23, 2020|archive-url=https://web.archive.org/web/20200123225834/https://www.refinery29.com/en-gb/2019/10/8590591/kanye-west-jesus-is-king-trailer-imax|url-status=live}}</ref> They continue to sing the reinterpretation while the image gives way to a biblical quote from the [[Gospel of Mark|New Testament Book of Mark]]: "In the words of [[Jesus|Jesus Christ]], 'The time is fulfilled, and the [[Kingdom of God (Christianity)|Kingdom of God]] is at hand, repent and believe in the gospel.'"<ref name="independent"/><ref name="refinery"/> The film was released simultaneously with West's ninth studio album [[Jesus Is King|of the same name]] on October 25, 2019, and the former includes West and his gospel group the [[Sunday Service Choir]] performing the song as a rap [[hymn]].<ref>{{cite web |last1=Pearce |first1=Sheldon |url=https://pitchfork.com/thepitch/kanye-west-jesus-is-king-takeaways/ |title=5 Takeaways from Kanye West's New Album, ''Jesus Is King'' |website=Pitchfork |access-date=April 19, 2021 |date=October 25, 2019 |archive-date=April 18, 2020 |archive-url=https://web.archive.org/web/20200418065729/https://pitchfork.com/thepitch/kanye-west-jesus-is-king-takeaways/ |url-status=live }}</ref><ref>{{cite
==Remix==
[[File:Caroline Shaw with Attacca Quartet and So Percussion at Miller Theater - 49517836807.jpg|thumb|
A remix of "Say You Will", featuring violinist and composer [[Caroline Shaw]], was uploaded by West to his [[SoundCloud]] on October 19, 2015, alongside a remix of [[the Weeknd]]'s "[[Tell Your Friends (song)|Tell Your Friends]]" under the title of "When I See It".<ref>{{cite news |last1=Hendicott |first1=James |url=https://www.nme.com/news/music/kanye-west-242-1206855 |title=Kanye West launches surprise tracks 'Say You Will' (feat Caroline Shaw) and 'When I see It' |website=NME |access-date=September 29, 2018 |date=October 19, 2015 |archive-date=September 29, 2018 |archive-url=https://web.archive.org/web/20180929233307/https://www.nme.com/news/music/kanye-west-242-1206855 |url-status=live }}</ref> The cover art for both is a photo of flowers, which had been used for merchandise at West's ''808s & Heartbreak'' concert.<ref name="flowers"/> [[Photographer]] [[Nick Knight (photographer)|Nick Knight]] released a body of large still-life images alongside his "Flora" exhibition of flowers in 2012, with the artwork being one of the images from the body.<ref name="flowers"/> Manipulation by heat and water was used for the image's development process, creating the visual effect of melting flowers.<ref name="flowers">{{cite web |last1=Sanchez |first1=Karizza |url=https://www.complex.com/style/2015/10/kanye-west-when-i-see-it-say-you-will-cover-art-details |title=Kanye West's 'When I See It' and 'Say You Will' Cover Art Details |website=Complex |access-date=September 29, 2018 |date=October 20, 2015 |archive-date=September 29, 2018 |archive-url=https://web.archive.org/web/20180929233617/https://www.complex.com/style/2015/10/kanye-west-when-i-see-it-say-you-will-cover-art-details |url-status=live }}</ref> According to Shaw, West first approached her backstage at a 2014 performance and requested her phone number. Shaw remembered starting off not overly enthusiastic about a collaboration, saying that one of West's producers "asked me if I'd be interested on working on songs for a live show with an orchestra", leading to her getting "the sense that maybe he wanted to ask me to be a composer and orchestrate something, and that wasn't something that was really interesting" due to the role being fulfilled by many people.<ref name="guardian"/> She further recalled not doing anything "for a week or two", before taking "a deep dive into [the West album] ''808s and Heartbreak''", and admitted: "Say You Will is the song that hit me most." Shaw explained that the song "does something with music that I love: the last two minutes [of it], nothing happens. Absolutely nothing".<ref name="guardian">{{cite web |last1=Anderson |first1=Stacey |url=https://www.theguardian.com/music/2016/jun/09/caroline-shaw-classical-music-kanye-west |title=Is Caroline Shaw really the future of music? {{!}} Music |website=[[The Guardian]] |access-date=December 11, 2018 |date=June 9, 2016 |archive-date=December 14, 2018 |archive-url=https://web.archive.org/web/20181214071441/https://www.theguardian.com/music/2016/jun/09/caroline-shaw-classical-music-kanye-west |url-status=live }}</ref> The remix was recorded in the lead up to the album concert.<ref>{{cite web |last1=Young |first1=Alex |url=https://consequence.net/2015/10/kanye-west-surprise-releases-two-new-tracks-when-i-see-it-and-say-you-will-remix/ |title=Kanye West surprise releases two new tracks: 'When I See It' and 'Say You Will' Remix — listen |website=Consequence
Musically, the remix of "Say You Will" is an [[Electro (music)|electro]]–orchestral ballad.<ref name="guardian"/> The remix was [[Arrangement|arranged]] by Shaw, who played additional violins.<ref name="guardian"/><ref name="shaw">{{cite web|last=Shepherd|first=Jack|date=October 20, 2015|url=https://www.independent.co.uk/arts-entertainment/music/news/kanye-west-releases-two-surprise-tracks-remix-say-you-will-and-weeknd-sampling-when-i-see-a6700836.html|title=Kanye West releases two new songs: A remix of 'Say You Will' and The Weeknd sampling 'When I See'|newspaper=The Independent|access-date=April 20, 2021}}</ref> The vocals are strengthened for it, with Shaw's voice being [[Loop (music)|looped]] to sound somewhat like the vocal ensemble [[Roomful of Teeth]] that she is a member of.<ref name="shaw"/><ref name="atlantic">{{cite web|last=Meyer|first=Robinson|date=October 19, 2015|url=https://www.theatlantic.com/notes/2015/10/kanye-west-caroline-shaw-say-you-will-soundcloud/411379/|title=Kanye West and Caroline Shaw Collaborate on 'Say You Will'|website=[[The Atlantic]]|url-access=limited|access-date=April 20, 2021|archive-date=December 2, 2020|archive-url=https://web.archive.org/web/20201202041513/https://www.theatlantic.com/notes/2015/10/kanye-west-caroline-shaw-say-you-will-soundcloud/411379/|url-status=live}}</ref> The opening is wordless, featuring Shaw recalling her earlier work by singing unconnected vowel and consonant sounds. As the remix continues, West's vocal melody changes while his voice gets louder. At the same time, the [[timbre]] of Shaw's voice opens and [[pizzicato]] strings come in.<ref name="atlantic"/> The remix reached number two on the [[Billboard Twitter Real-Time|''Billboard'' Twitter Trending 140]] chart in October 2015, being held off the summit by "When I See It".<ref>{{cite
==Credits and personnel==
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'''Personnel'''
{{Div col}}
* [[Kanye West]]{{spaced en dash}} songwriter,
* [[Jeff Bhasker]]{{spaced en dash}} songwriter, keyboards
* [[Mr Hudson]]{{spaced en dash}} songwriter, background vocals
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==References==
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{{Kanye West songs}}
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